// Rant / exclus / gatekeeping / Mspec-Lesbian exclus discourse 

God every fricken time an exclus implies MSPEC = attraction to men in response to that lesbian ≠ MSPEC.

If you're gay and you include non-binary people in your attraction, that is more than one gender.
If you're lesbian and you include non-binary people in your attraction, that is more than one gender.
If you're straight and you include non-binary people in your attraction, that is more than one gender.

What is more than one gender? Multiple genders. What is Mspec? Man-spectrum? How pathetic so many think that.

Either don't include us in your attraction, or own up that you are NOT Mono, you are infact Mspec.

Saying lesbian means non-men, that it's attraction to women and non-binary people, while still trying to pretend it's mono attraction.. it's simply just you saying non-binary people are women-lite..

If you want to call your attraction mono, stop using exclusive definitions that completely contradict what mono even means. Say "queer attraction to women", "queer attraction to men".

Only when you acknowledge your attraction to be mspec should you be including non-binary people, and others outside the binary, in the definition.

And the non-men, or non-women, definition, is so damn trash and exclusive to multi-gendered people and plural people.

Mspec Gays are valid, Mspec Lesbians are valid. Mspec Straights are valid.. which yes is queer because if you're including non-binary people in your attraction, there's no way about it than to say yes you are queer.

How can hetero be queer? And how can it be inclusive to those that are not binary?

Rather than use the traditional definition that means opposite sex or gender attraction, use this definition:

"Attraction to a gender other than one's own".

That definition even makes it a usable label for people outside of the binary who maybe consider it impossible for one to identify with the same gender identity as them, even if they still identify with the same label.

Hetero actually has more play in it than Lesbian or Gay does when it comes to being mono-spec and including a gender outside of the binary if you use that definition.

There's just no way it works with Lesbian or Gay, because they specifically mention a gender. But hetero, if you aren't using the traditional and outdated definition, it doesn't specifically mention a gender, regardless of one's own gender.

But still, you can't say your hetero attraction exclusively to non-binary people as a whole is mono because you're conflating everything out of the binary as a singlar third gender. It's just as wrong as implying women-lite or men-lite.

You better be acknowledging your attraction as mspec if it involves multiple genders.

You don't have to specifically go ahead and put bi- infront of your label such as bi-straight or bi-lesbian or bi-gay. As long as you're not denying you're mspec.

But then if a person feels the need for one's attraction to use the bi prefix infront, it sure as heck isn't invalidating bisexuals like exclusives make out. How is someone identifying in the way they feel most comfortable with, that speaks for them, how is that invalidating someone else's identity?

Simple, it's not. Saying bit is and dictating how one should identify is called gatekeeping. It is radfem shit.

As long as it's good faith, it's valid, regardless if you understand it or not. Respect people, stop gatekeeping and stop forcing people automatically into attraction they do not belong.

And also stop gatekeeping and invalidating split attraction too, which people have different relationships with depending on if they're singular or plural.

And stop also saying you can't be a straightbian, or straight-gay, which are terms one may use to refer to the direction of their attraction that doesn't change, even though their gender does.

Fuck exclusives.

Much love to mspec lesbians, mspec gays, mspec straigts, straightbians, straight-gays.

And no, straight doesn't in of itself say you're queer. But if you're including non-binary people in your attraction, and that means acknowledging them as non-binary, there's no escaping that your attraction is indeed queer.

And of course, if you're a hetero orientated a-spec, even if it goes for both ace and aro attraction, you are queer because you are not an allo-cishet.

Let's be an inclusive community, not a gatekeeping exclusive community that's always fighting over each other regarding who is more oppressed.

The queer community is complex and messy and abstract and beautiful.

Gatekeeping does nothing but benefit and appease to those that are out to erase all of us as a whole. Stop appeasing to them, and stop using rewritten radfem shit.

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And :birdsiteonfire: is literally on fire yet again with the exclusionists :blobfacepalm:

Mspec/bi lesbians are valid, and and again, I direct you to my pinned above.

Mspec ≠ attraction men you fricken terf-lites.

Women and non-binary people ≠ one gender.

YOU CANNOT BE MONO and include us.
If you include us, YOU ARE MSPEC. Stop with your rad fem shit!

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